From lurker-index@localhost Wed Apr 27 20:49:59 2016 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 20:49:59 +0200 From: Miroslav Rovis To: Good Guy Subject: Re: [CinCV TNG] Building in Gentoo Message-ID: <20160427184959.GC32227@g0n> References: <570AAA40.2030903@nordland-teknikk.no> <20160426213912.GD30714@g0n> <20160426231722.GF30714@g0n> <20160427051106.GG30714@g0n> <20160427152029.GA32227@g0n> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TYecfFk8j8mZq+dy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23+116 (55ea6e829b46) (2014-03-12) --TYecfFk8j8mZq+dy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (I sent you more testing of mine, in the meatime, I hope you received another message of mine, with updated repo of yours, and with 'noexecstack' given to LDFLAGS...) On 160427-10:03-0600, Good Guy wrote: > > > > Good Guy, if you don't reply to the above, can I take that you permit me > > to post our correspondence, so other users can benefit from it a little > > and I make a contribution so future Gentoo users of Cinelerra can > > install it? > > > Yes, post whatever you want. > So great!... But I'm breaking from strain... the true pure intellectual joy being stronger and keeping me going... > It would be very nice to get all of the steps > easily documented to be followed by others. > Yes, that's my desire too! But it's a lot of work... > I may be able to improve the build to accommodate gentoo differences > in the future. I hope you will.=20 I'm passionate about FOSS and Gentoo, and for that reason I'm pretty hurt that I was banned some two-three weeks ago... But I also see the cliqu=C3=A9 in power in Gentoo treat some of the much mo= re prominent high ranking members pretty bad... I'm actually fighting for the good powers in Gentoo, not knowing if we will win over, or the cliqu=C3=A9 would remain dominant... I don't know many details about the infighting, and also didn't really want to bother you with them. But if you wanted, take a look at: Install Cinelerra in Gentoo (out-of-portage) -- Part 3 http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/gentoo/cinelerra-out-of-3.php#gentoo-folks If I get stronger, but I'm really not that expert as you say somewhere in this message, I will also fight for Devuan, the Debian non-systemd fork (and also my favorite total ban to Dbus, pulseaudio and other poetterware, and other covert spyware and such, all being possible in Devuan too! In that sense, Gentoo could be covertly weakened too... if the current dominant cliqu=C3=A9 remains in power, certainly Gentoo would be subverted... And here we really reach to almost or truly religeous dimensions: this is a fight between bad and good! Yes it is!) > > keep Cinelerra supportive to grsec-hardening! > > > Am backing up my current development system now but that is going to > be awhile. Then I will attempt to install Gentoo with grsecurity > Which is the best versions to use as I am not familiar with either of > these? > I haven't installed Gentoo since: Air-Gapped Gentoo Install, Tentative https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-987268.html The best version? grsecurity-hardened kernel and no poetterware (but you have to make cinelerra compilable for even those who use systemd... and I haven't used systemd based system since when I reinstalled in Air-Gapped... ) The best is grsecurity-hardened kernel and no poetterware, including dbus (but you have to make Cinelerra available to people with Dbus based systems). This is a very contested, and much read quest of mine: Uninstalling dbus and *kits (to Unfacilitate Remote Seats) https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-992146.html But I'm really not fresh with installing Gentoo. For grsecurity you need to go through the Wikibook: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Grsecurity (but that's a piece of cake for you ;-) ) > If you could supply a list of install / build environment prerequisites > this would be very helpful. If not, I will just use the gentoo minimal > install > plus development prerequisites until the demands are clear. Before I > begin, I > need a system backup. This may take several hours. I do my system backup like this: Postfix smtp/TLS, Bkp/Cloning Mthd, Censorship/Intrusion https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-999436.html#7613044 That is for Air-Gap minimal two same MBO systems. Very good Air-Gap! >=20 > Yes, I have several systems, the build system is a 12 core, and my > devel system is 24 core amd opteron, suitably amped with storage. > They are not state of the art, but pretty close. I usually try to > stay off the bleeding edge. I'm glad you have good systems. I'm not envious of good people having more than me. I'm happy in my relative poverty. >=20 > It is pretty obvious that your expertise is well beyond the level you > feign, perhaps to help you past barriers of prejudice. If you have > good advice, please be open to sharing when it seems like an > advantage. Thanks for your help and attention. No, not expert. I still talk so very little of C and C++ ... Some Bash... No Python. Very little Perl...=20 But I did attract attention with my Air-Gap and Cloning and some more stuff which are really good, but nothing very clever, and with the Dbus quest (the link is above), which is only natural understanding...=20 >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Miroslav Rovis < > miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr> wrote: >=20 > > On 160427-07:31-0600, Good Guy wrote: > > > the diff in the install listing is due to the last commit in the repo: > > > > > > > # cd /mnt0/cinelerra5/ > > > > # git log > > > > commit b2106cd755a98389f1f6d373a71201b68377d74f > > > > Author: Good Guy > > > > Date: Tue Apr 26 10:49:10 2016 -0600 > > > > > > > > fix popupmenu remove_item vs del_item, mv downsample from aud to > > vid > > > > > > > when you have time, do a git pull in your repo, or git clone a new co= py > > to > > > acquire the new changes. the popmenu fix is prevents a inf loop, =2E.. --=20 Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr --TYecfFk8j8mZq+dy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXIQnXAAoJEOqYhIhPuvCuGJAP/1iRtw+9KhJJg9XTCG33hJy6 iCS4a5AgV1an88cs+nfFw+Po2nY3XhHew3n0ci++eooDchHWr6iej0Pg3Yy0ah+B yeIamR9AanBz6z3g+eEzlob9aw2jSRZGwGPuhoeta66eRAQf3AoStGq9UQU7kTM2 T81sb/DtC7JlhzHjyiYCF3SJvUaif1aSZS1nPpg1mWn7RAjJWYKcshp89Mt9I2qL jYICbnlkiBZC4sj08fq1RcIAS3fPzQNm04KennEW/OZpin2FX7eLlEahIvR+GAvG bo77OQ41CaChE6JhZRGdikI5y3rJ2kMYG5sEHKWoVVAoDlHRWNOPlDYmTYFMcIBI 111Y5tI0BdSxVbW6fa0Y2qqbzeNrx35rb6Dxi6eQcUs5+SWzDBWh2k/Z3b5hHDmo KX0/vvd3fLibMB+cPOcfGohJj095rJxf7F7POT8qFSGgRerYuVNUnjdCwmGsZx7n VBP4959s3cIS7tjS3ELmX4g25cKW1QFj0wDQGaPULSYKXf9SXbruvUZjnPBsTbji gtSf/KKZAOvU3SVLX1wXrbMUzw2D0Dtht0NqPDSFF+nldfbg7goq9pPnxQcHR9b8 g8Gicx0CZZGB0xEXsuTPr3T++cfCAfqQcVv1lZT+XIbCWS8ON3em07Mbqg13ymbV vVVdTHZQK8gaOUUB/nUt =SKuB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TYecfFk8j8mZq+dy--