From lurker-index@localhost Sun Sep 18 22:05:49 2016 Return-Path: Received: from lin16.mojsite.com (178.218.164.164:993) by g0n.xdwgrp with IMAP4-SSL; 18 Sep 2016 20:05:49 -0000 Envelope-to: miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr Delivery-date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 17:38:57 +0200 Received: from shtjevan.gbnet.net ([194.70.142.36]:48504 helo=gbnet.net) by lin16.mojsite.com with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bleBA-0002VP-8N for miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 17:38:52 +0200 Received: (qmail 2195 invoked by uid 611); 18 Sep 2016 15:35:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 2159 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2016 15:35:18 -0000 Received: from davin.gbnet.net (194.70.142.37) by shtjevan.gbnet.net with ESMTPS (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted); 18 Sep 2016 15:35:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 4511 invoked from network); 18 Sep 2016 15:10:02 -0000 Received: from mail-1.fido.net (84.246.192.5) by davin.gbnet.net with ESMTPS (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted); 18 Sep 2016 15:10:02 -0000 Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net ([80.0.253.73]) by mail-1.fido.net with esmtp (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1bldjE-0006eF-Gn for mutt-users@mutt.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:10:02 +0100 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([81.100.29.190]) by know-smtprelay-9-imp with bizsmtp id l39z1t019466fER0139zl7; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:09:59 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [81.100.29.190] X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.1 cv=XdR0t9N5 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=+He7s6SjlwGdCRwhjLOitA==:117 a=+He7s6SjlwGdCRwhjLOitA==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=GW1xBdLrtEIA:10 a=RbtE78cQAAAA:8 a=SM4R_tBJNgtr62ziHUAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=26AX8nTFnTTfgUpR1_T8:22 Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 500) id 9C5E06008F; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:09:59 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 16:09:59 +0100 From: Ken Moffat To: mutt-users@mutt.org Subject: Re: OT: Miro's PGP signature [Was: urlview not listing the links right] Message-ID: <20160918150959.GA20711@milliways.localdomain> References: <20160917232509.GK31239@g0n.xdwgrp> <20160918051503.GO31239@g0n.xdwgrp> <20160918061803.4077.03047CF5@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> <20160918101504.oz7teg4va3x6gn44@initnull.ddns.net> <20160918111847.GA4664@rz.localhost.localdomain> <20160918122012.GP31239@g0n.xdwgrp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20160918122012.GP31239@g0n.xdwgrp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.0 (2016-08-17) Received-SPF: pass (mail-1.fido.net: domain of ntlworld.com designates 80.0.253.73 as permitted sender) client-ip=80.0.253.73; envelope-from=zarniwhoop@ntlworld.com; helo=know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net; X-SPF-Result: mail-1.fido.net: domain of ntlworld.com designates 80.0.253.73 as permitted sender Authentication-Results: mail-1.fido.net; dmarc=pass header.from=ntlworld.com X-Filter-ID: s0sct1PQhAABKnZB5plbISOd5RyyC8kYwR3nEdjY7mhdH3uI+MKW3xMpjfI/hNptXewBu5TuhjJr gH3eyFBy7oJJx3yiWuG3S+75N38ibnhs6HRQZQZhJCOEMzm68/Q04P7ygcQoikU2sD3Wbxj4FR0D 1ELX1Mfx+PhdYe3KTb6HDJV42Emp5ET4huacQajZPep2aqaU9O96eErUTIpCGbgZQi6ZtT69mxvo dcdZqNyuezQqq7ctXKpY7kA2rMjfse1sMwr2Tx3lFXd8IKE0TOPffgLyzMT9JOZA1sHn0IHQa/+N iy9RpReXVozXS07O8QuiO+jLMcVedu+3JMh3HfGX+ObfaU6whL8xq/xH+auCTO8jWZlBEjCkVNJ+ ODwRGeKz8vlEl/GSEiCnxc6ArYc4PP8b3UwyYj8TuwnB+q8AotpMYOyStFgw17nUZzJB/MjzrJRU haicPWUYwg4iETCN4/6NrfmfSnkyCtgd8/StSzDrYyOE2odII+BJBuTGGl+gHNaCImEoyQ4V/T97 h0V4QNX66YyXVHTn3qocg+zlT032lzzT3Yb2CmbEcC5ZaIfVaCHpEB6cFH6WJxE4ZuRIDkJa6SAH dE6rBvj0IjVWAPeIySs+awvvImE9WUgz X-Report-Abuse-To: spam@master.fido.net Authentication-Results: fido.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=zarniwhoop@ntlworld.com X-FidoGuard-Class: ham X-FidoGuard-Evidence: Combined (0.12) X-Recommended-Action: accept List-Post: List-Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@mutt.org, body only "unsubscribe mutt-users" Precedence: bulk Sender: owner-mutt-users@mutt.org X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-ID: 1bleBA-0002VP-8N X-PlusHosting-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.199, required 5, BAYES_00 -1.90, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS 0.00, KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY 1.00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED -2.30) X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-From: owner-mutt-users-m24731@mutt.org X-Spam-Status: No X-getmail-retrieved-from-mailbox: =?utf-8?q?INBOX?= On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 02:20:12PM +0200, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On 160918-13:18+0200, Richard Z wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 12:15:04PM +0200, Michael Tatge wrote: > > > * On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 11:21PM -0700 Ian Zimmerman (itz@primate.net) muttered: > > > > Can anyone else verify Miro's signature? > > > > > > [-- Begin signature information --] > > > Good signature from: Miroslav Rovis (consacrated to Heart of Jesus) > > > > > > created: Sun 18 Sep 2016 01:25:09 CEST > > > WARNING: We have NO indication whether the key belongs to the person > Pretty strange, if true. It's always used to be: > > There is no indication that this key really belongs to the owner > > That it would turn BAD is hard to conceive for me. I'm far from an > expert, but I do use my GnuPG correctly. > I gave up using pgp in my muttrc when my upstream was down last week, catching up on list mail when every signed mail made a failed attempt to check the server was tedious. And so far, I haven't bothered to reinstate it, because so many posts get shown as a bad signature. One of the lists I read is lkml, and one of the developers there signs almost all of his posts (except the "added to some tree" messages he sends). On any given day there will be several posts from him, and usually one or two are reported as bad, and the rest as good. When I first installed GnuPG I was using v1 and my impression was that verification worked. But for quite some time, possibly after v2 came into use, it has been "variable". At first I thought that moving to v2 might fix it, but it has been the same story with 2 and now 2.1. ĸen -- `I shall take my mountains', said Lu-Tze. `The climate will be good for them.' -- Small Gods