From lurker-index@localhost Fri Sep 23 08:06:16 2016 Return-Path: Received: from lin16.mojsite.com (178.218.164.164:993) by g0n.xdwgrp with IMAP4-SSL; 23 Sep 2016 06:06:16 -0000 Envelope-to: miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr Delivery-date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 23:45:00 +0200 Received: from shtjevan.gbnet.net ([194.70.142.36]:64291 helo=gbnet.net) by lin16.mojsite.com with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bmpK2-0005wJ-Bj for miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 23:44:54 +0200 Received: (qmail 26688 invoked by uid 611); 21 Sep 2016 21:42:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 26680 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2016 21:41:30 -0000 Received: from mail-1.fido.net (84.246.192.5) by shtjevan.gbnet.net with ESMTPS (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted); 21 Sep 2016 21:41:30 -0000 Received: from ns1.veggiechinese.net ([66.215.1.146] helo=aura.veggiechinese.net) by mail-1.fido.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1bmpGi-0000gp-0e for mutt-users@mutt.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 22:41:30 +0100 Received: by aura.veggiechinese.net (Postfix, from userid 1228) id ACBD6B05AD; Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 14:41:24 -0700 From: Will Yardley To: mutt-users@mutt.org Cc: Ben McGinnes Message-ID: <20160921214124.GA46901@aura.veggiechinese.net> References: <20160917232509.GK31239@g0n.xdwgrp> <20160918051503.GO31239@g0n.xdwgrp> <20160918061803.4077.03047CF5@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> <20160918064328.ts37vzdr6ehds6ln@lovelace.schplaf> <20160921104046.GD1147@adversary.org> <20160921213236.GD24944@dragontoe.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160921213236.GD24944@dragontoe.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.0 Received-SPF: pass (mail-1.fido.net: domain of veggiechinese.net designates 66.215.1.146 as permitted sender) client-ip=66.215.1.146; envelope-from=mutt-users@veggiechinese.net; helo=aura.veggiechinese.net; X-SPF-Result: mail-1.fido.net: domain of veggiechinese.net designates 66.215.1.146 as permitted sender X-Filter-ID: s0sct1PQhAABKnZB5plbITQXuNddQE5YHVh3T1mmk4LTWt20vfXrlv9VKYe7SdIi81Jtd6ogtAeu oGmYaDi3pv0gpBbsmKo2xFYd4cLbfj1iLS35izL9ptKuULkIwwsu0z6bhalFEM/pjPCQA+BAliwF IbkEtvPKXMYJDCufGi2rPlDZhmEyQ3Bf22FTdGoojiNM+K2RlHuBT0D4A1FWJ+HlyZGXMI0h2JUG FmPj4S670OM6PooKsH9m7mduAF9Qj/HV25Ixw8eup+o+M57xNZ327qAgl3GQuUlCL/RQ/joDNcKV Yi4VPMAUKaWfgbMU8Zf45t9pTrCEvzGr/Ef5q4JM7yNZmUESMKRU0n44PBEZ4rPy+USX8ZISIKfF zoCt6+o04n5SvaOaznru6wyPu8J9Xi9AAohjXvqCV/YXkb3eNHk15VolAGHS5rCXQKDy/spXMy7P sCHNKMVg1bvmya+a50kq913R7GVFKmsEITT1jrFMWSYPA2CXN58ytBIYQEo5+EnkMOOMAzuMnCHv Ka7U25OUkChc89La5MsdjsTrO/GXXYUiV6bGIsPuR8VQMS+4ayUpOtEhdxekWDmK9g== X-Report-Abuse-To: spam@master.fido.net Authentication-Results: fido.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=mutt-users@veggiechinese.net Subject: =?utf-8?b?W1NQQU0/XQ==?= Re: [SPAM?] Re: OT: Miro's PGP signature [Was: urlview not listing the links right] X-FidoGuard-Class: unsure X-FidoGuard-Evidence: Combined (0.50) X-Recommended-Action: accept List-Post: List-Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@mutt.org, body only "unsubscribe mutt-users" Precedence: bulk Sender: owner-mutt-users@mutt.org X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-ID: 1bmpK2-0005wJ-Bj X-PlusHosting-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-5.299, required 5, autolearn=not spam, BAYES_00 -5.00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS 0.00, KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY 1.00, LIST_PRTL_SAME_USER 1.00, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED -2.30) X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-From: owner-mutt-users-m24768@mutt.org X-Spam-Status: No X-getmail-retrieved-from-mailbox: =?utf-8?q?INBOX?= On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 04:32:36PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 08:40:46PM +1000, Ben McGinnes wrote: > > All four of Miro's sigs were fine for me. Yours, however, wasn't. > > FWIW, for me, every message in this thread that carried a signature > verified correctly. I'm currently running mutt-1.5.21 with gpg-1.4.5. > I should really update those... =8^) Maybe unrelated, but, I've been getting the following error (using gpgme), *when* I already have a signature from someone whose key has expired (i.e., gpg will seek out a key from the keyserver for a user whose key I don't have, but not in the case where I have the key matching the key-id present, but an old version of it). For example, with this message: Problem signature from: Derek D. Martin created: Wed Sep 21 14:32:35 2016 Warning: The key used to create the signature expired at: Sat Oct 11 13:15:40 2003 But then after: aura% gpg -kv ddm@sophic.org gpg: using PGP trust model gpg: Note: signature key DFBEAD02 expired Sat Oct 11 13:15:40 2003 PDT pub dsa1024/DFBEAD02 2002-10-11 [SCA] [expired: 2003-10-11] uid [ expired] Derek D. Martin sub elg4096/93A42B14 2002-10-11 [E] [expired: 2003-10-11] aura% gpg --recv-keys DFBEAD02 gpg: key DFBEAD02: "Derek D. Martin " 1 new user ID gpg: key DFBEAD02: "Derek D. Martin " 35 new signatures gpg: key DFBEAD02: public key "Derek D. Martin " imported gpg: marginals needed: 3 completes needed: 1 trust model: PGP gpg: depth: 0 valid: 1 signed: 4 trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 1u gpg: depth: 1 valid: 4 signed: 0 trust: 4-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 0u gpg: Total number processed: 2 gpg: imported: 1 gpg: new user IDs: 1 gpg: new signatures: 35 Then I see: Good signature from: Derek D. Martin aka: Derek D. Martin created: Wed Sep 21 14:32:35 2016 w